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kiwighia68
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A couple more problem areas. I'm not going to go crazy here. Just patch it up. I was joking yesterday that I should call the car Patches. Unfortunately that personalized plate is taken in Michigan.
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Have you considered alternate spellings such as "PATCHEZ", or just shortening it to "PATCH"?


Just checked. All taken. So was PATCHE5. Personalized plates have a yearly fee here so maybe we'll just get a normal one anyway.


Have you considered taking "Patched" in another language? The Ghia is a German car, of course, and in German the noun for a patch is "Fleck" and the verb to patch is "flicken".

In Afrikaans, a distant relative of German and English, patched would be "gelas".

My car is going to be a patchwork of so many weld-in sections from different suppliers that I'm tempted to register her as "Laslap", meaning a quilt sewn together from many pieces of cloth.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A couple more problem areas. I'm not going to go crazy here. Just patch it up. I was joking yesterday that I should call the car Patches. Unfortunately that personalized plate is taken in Michigan.
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Have you considered alternate spellings such as "PATCHEZ", or just shortening it to "PATCH"?


Just checked. All taken. So was PATCHE5. Personalized plates have a yearly fee here so maybe we'll just get a normal one anyway.


Have you considered taking "Patched" in another language? The Ghia is a German car, of course, and in German the noun for a patch is "Fleck" and the verb to patch is "flicken".

In Afrikaans, a distant relative of German and English, patched would be "gelas".

My car is going to be a patchwork of so many weld-in sections from different suppliers that I'm tempted to register her as "Laslap", meaning a quilt sewn together from many pieces of cloth.


Just make sure you don't accidentally get "Ficken". That "L" makes all the difference. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Embarassed Embarassed

My vote goes to "patches"
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just make sure you don't accidentally get "Ficken". That "L" makes all the difference. Laughing


That would be bad.

One thing is for sure around here. Rust happens.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just make sure you don't accidentally get "Ficken". That "L" makes all the difference. Laughing


That would be bad.

One thing is for sure around here. Rust happens.

Which begs the question have you considered the license plate "Rusty" instead of "PATCHES"? Smile

If that one and all it's possible variations aren't already taken, I'd be very surprised.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just make sure you don't accidentally get "Ficken". That "L" makes all the difference. Laughing


That would be bad.

One thing is for sure around here. Rust happens.

Which begs the question have you considered the license plate "Rusty" instead of "PATCHES"? Smile

If that one and all it's possible variations aren't already taken, I'd be very surprised.


After all the work I put in to get rid of it. Hell no.
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2014 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been a bit since I posted. Still working on it. Went through a round of filler. Then a bit more epoxy. Fitting the doors, hood and decklid before I fix them and cut them in. The door fits need a bit of work, but better now than after I paint the car. also cut the holes for the earlier front blinkers.

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Redid my hinges and made door check straps by making a mould and pouring high impact polyurethane around the old metal straps. After a bit of filing they work good but who knows how long they'll last. The hinges ended up nice and stiff with no sag.

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Got a set of used 185/65/r15 Michelin tires for $75 with a bunch of life left in them. Soon I won't have to inflate the tires every time I want to move the chassis. This is also the exact size I was looking for. Good deal all around.

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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2014 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought a set of 5 185/65/r15 tires on American Eagles and put two on the rear of the 70 Ghia I bought to move it. They are a tight fit. I plan on adding small flairs to my 73, which is the car I bought the tires for.
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2014 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got room. At worst I'll roll the lips over steel rod. It's going back on the chassis before the outside gets color.
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spent some time reworking the fit of the drivers door. I can live with this.

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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After doing some welding on the doors and some dent bumping I cut in the panels.

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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2014 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More painting

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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I became a little overwhelmed with scale of this restoration today. Everything's in pieces and wondering what to do next I started looking through all the boxes and my mind started going in 20 different directions. Having parts from 2 different Ghias with none of the parts in great condition didn't make it any easier.

So I broke down and started making a list, which I think helped. When I get too discombobulated again and don't know what to do next at least I can focus on one thing in "the list"

It's a long list.

And still very partial.

Did I ever mention that this is my first full car restoration. It is. And as usual I have to do it the hard way.

One thing that continues to amaze me is how nicely things clean up when you put a bit of work into it. Also how quickly everything else gets messy when you do that work.

A bit of a ramble. I wasn't sure I was going to get this far. Turning $100 of sheet metal into a pretty solid body. All the braces are off of it and I've hoisted it and climbed all over it, so it's going to stay together. Now I'm in a position where I know I can finish it and am seeing the rest of the picture I guess.
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are doing a great job. Even though it can get overwhelming, look at what a great job you have done. The list is a imperative part of staying focused when confronted with frustration. I sometimes need to walk away for a few days from the project to regain focus. Sometimes my wife asks me why I am so stressed out about the car, I thought it was suppose to be fun? Although she doesn't understand the passion we put into our work, she is right. It is suppose to be fun. You are well on the way to a beautiful car YOU restored. Keep up the good work, look at he whole doughnut in stead of the hole, and if its worth doing, its worth doing it right. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with Scott on this; keep going. I'm following behind watching your progress with interest since I need to learn from you and I need encouragement.

Scott is right in another point he makes; by the time I (and you too) finish this restoration I will know every nut and bolt on the car and will know that I have restored not just the car as a whole but each tiny component that goes into a Ghia.

In a way, too, by doing the job right we pay homage to the men and women in all the factories that produced the individual parts for our cars all those years ago. Our cars may carry the badges and names honouring Mr Ghia and Mr Karmann, but our cars are more than that. Much much more.
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys. I'm definitely learning what to do better the next time at the very least.
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you have some serious mad metal skills! never know you were a first timer. beautiful job!
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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you have some serious mad metal skills! never know you were a first timer. beautiful job!


Thanks. I do have painting experience but I have a lot to learn on bodywork.

Things always look better in pictures, don't they.

I managed to get to primer stage today. Ive been using some less expensive products since this in a budget build. I will say I've been very happy with Kirker enduro epoxy and their single stage urethanes. I've been using another brand of clear but I forget the name. My main requirement was that it have UV protection.

However Kirkers Perfect Prime is way too thick as mixed even with my 2.2 gun. had to thin it a bit. It also starts to thicken in the gun in no time, It would be fine for spot priming and it sands easy, but trying to prime a whole car with it is a nightmare.

I put down an epoxy sealer coat today and three coats of primer

I don't think I've seen the last of the filler I still have a few spots that will need attention.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm almost ready for paint but it'll be a while. I need to go back and do a few things to the chassis, blast and paint wheels, put on tires. try to get a running engine. plus my truck needs some attention so it'll be awhile. It's best to let primer sit anyway so that any shrinkage happens before you paint.

I painted the dash. It's a bit dusty in there.

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A view of both sides primed and sanded. I blocked with 150 then 240 then went back and did some spot filling and priming, took it back to 240 then DA'd with 400. I need to scuff edges and sand one more time with 600-800 but, it's close.

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Here is another before shot. Looks a bit different now.

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Here is my ghetto method of pulling dents when you can't get behind the metal with a dolly. Or, my substitute for a stud welder. I weld the head of 12 penny nails to the dents and cut them off short. Then I grab the nail with vice grips and pull on the dent while hammering gently on the high spots. Works for me.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Independence Day miracle.

I made a motor run. This was important to me as I would like to be able to move the car around by myself after putting the body on. I also spent a lot of time figuring out how to put in and take out ball joints. Difficult but done. Here is a video of the motor running. I have another that I'm planning on rebuilding, but this is good enough for now.


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