VW Birth Certificates

[obus]

i recently acquired a 56 beetle convertible and it had an existing BC from November 2010 from the prior owner. I decided to try again with my name because i was hoping to get more info with the new company that is doing them. I was right!!! It gave me the exterior color as well as the color of the convertible top. So my advice is if you havent had one ever done def do it but if you had one done years ago and were missing info, it may be worth another try
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July 1959 Mango Standard Bus aka Obus L346 L347 https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=256592&highlight=
June 1973 Pumpkin Orange Thing aka Othing L30H
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=711775&highlight=
1960 Paprika Red Karmann Ghia Convertible aka Schatze L452 built 5/20/60
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...highlight=
March 1956 Beetle convertible L41 Black

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[Texas_1958]

[Texas_1958]

Quick question. I have a 1956 oval, US spec. (bullet turn signals, overrider bumpers, MPH clear needle, etc.) beetle. My VIN is 10829** (last two digits redacted).

I ordered Birth Certificate and Data Sheet. To my surprise (and concern) the paperwork came back suggesting I have a Sept. 1948 Type 11. Although I would love to have a split I clearly do not have one. One thing I notice, on the paperwork they cite the VIN as 1-0829** (again, last two digits redacted). When I filled out the order form I was pretty sure I transposed the VIN without any hyphen.

I have reviewed this thread and it seems many people are not reading the paperwork correctly. Though I am at a loss. I would know if I had a split window. The paperwork they have sent back is the VIN number I submitted except they added in a hyphen after the 1 and are suggesting I have a 1948.

Any thoughts?
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1958 VW Bug

[KingAir42]

Thanks, I just sent an email. We will find out…
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[EverettB]

I think you can email them and ask?

I'm not 100% sure on that.
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[KingAir42]

Darn, I messed up I think. I just bought a Birth certificate because I wanted to see if my engine was original. I did not put an engine number on the form, only the vin and type.
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[2003nbc]

Update on Timing (to USA) and M-Codes question:
Ordered BC on 9/26/24
Received shipping tracking information email 10/17/24
Received Packet via USPS 10/28/24

Anyone know what codes M161 and M162 are for a sedan? - already checked archives listings and also codes found in spare parts listing.

[grooovy212]

I am excited I just ordered a certificate for my van. I am new to owning a VW classic and I am interested in finding it's history. I bought the vehicle last week from a lovely lady who's husband passed away. She has no information on it at all. Does anyone have any other helpful places to do research?

[finster]

they used to say "Your engine number is the original one since date of delivery"

however if they have put the number you gave them on the certificate 'for the delivery status of your car' that should mean it was the engine in the car in july 71. otherwise they do not show an engine number (if the number you gave them was from another car)

the A72 is odd especially as 'country settlement Grea(t) Britain' makes no sense and would not seem to be relevant to a usa car
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[Kevv]

Just got my birth certificate and had a couple questions:
-If I supplied the engine serial number and it got placed on the cert is it the factory engine?
-Does anyone know what the A72 means?

Thanks for the help.

[Kevv]

Just got my birth certificate and had a couple questions:
-If I supplied the engine serial number and it got placed on the cert is it the factory engine?
-Does anyone know what the A72 means?

Thanks for the help.

[rndnoramericaina72poptop]

Thanks again Finster for the follow up about AMAG. I have a lot of paperwork that came with my car and I just called the wife of the former owner and he worked at the US embassy in Bern, Switzerland and was in Air Force intellgence there in the 70s. She said he didn't buy the car new.
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[finster]

the cars would go to any of the amag dealerships (circa 80?) in switzerland

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[rndnoramericaina72poptop]

Wow, that is so cool Finster! Nice sleuthing on your part. So if I'm understanding this the cars were brought into Switzerland by rail then this was the logistic arrival center and the local dealers then picked them up in this part (or all?) of the country. And this was not just VWs here in Birrfeld but other marques as well such as BMW.
I wonder if there is any way to track where my Notch went from here? I guess I would look up local VW dealers in existence in 1965 nearby first such as Zurich or Basel (Birrfeld airport is midway between the two cities).
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65 Porsche 912 project
65 1500S notchback Velvet Green
80 Ford Courier 2.3 5spd LB
17 E-Golf
07 Dodge Sprinter 2500
P.O. of 61,65,66,68,69,70,74 Type I
P.O. of 68,70,72,89,90 Type II
P.O. of 63,64,64,66,68 Type III
P.O. of 70,73,75 914s
P.O. 68 Ghia, 74 Thing
P.O. Renault R8, R10s,R16s
P.O. 78 Fiat 128 4dr, 1200 Cabriolet
P.O. Triumphs 64 TR4 Sebring ed. & 76 TR6
European car enthusiast aka Nutjob

[finster]

what luck! googling 'birrfeld vw' resulted in this photo from 69 of the 'vw lager' or depot at birrfeld - notice the train which delivered the cars

it was owned by amag the swiss vw importers, more about it here
https://ihre-region-online.ch/2023/04/19/wie-das-birrfeld-auto-mobil-wurde/

and here
https://www.amag-group.ch/blog/mobilog-ag-das-neue...-logistik/

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[rndnoramericaina72poptop]

Hey folks,
I have a newly acquired Velvet Green (under a couple of other layers of paint) 65 Notchback that was said to have been sold in Switzerland then imported to the US. I just got my certificate and it has Birrfeld, Switzerland as the pickup location which appears to be an airport. Does anyone else have a car that was delivered here? Just trying to figure out more history on my car.

Cheers!
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65 Porsche 912 project
65 1500S notchback Velvet Green
80 Ford Courier 2.3 5spd LB
17 E-Golf
07 Dodge Sprinter 2500
P.O. of 61,65,66,68,69,70,74 Type I
P.O. of 68,70,72,89,90 Type II
P.O. of 63,64,64,66,68 Type III
P.O. of 70,73,75 914s
P.O. 68 Ghia, 74 Thing
P.O. Renault R8, R10s,R16s
P.O. 78 Fiat 128 4dr, 1200 Cabriolet
P.O. Triumphs 64 TR4 Sebring ed. & 76 TR6
European car enthusiast aka Nutjob

[67BettyBug]

Hoping to help someone out who is looking for how/where to order your VW Birth Certificate. The VW Museum stopped issuing these in 2019 and have since been issued by VW Classic Parts. I tried to order from their site but as someone else mentioned, the drop down did not give me the option to ship to the US. I reached out and they provided me with this link which worked! Ordered my certificate and data sheet this morning for E129.00 (USD $141)

https://www.volkswagen-classic-parts.com/en_us/

I’ll update on shipping time as soon as I receive it.

GOOD LUCK!

[58euro]

[70bus]

Frankfurt am Main - Frankfort on the river Main, in Hesse, vs. the other Frankfurts like Frankfurt an der Oder.

Also, the BC people mentioned that the first date is the day it passed inspection, ie was done, and the secod the day it left VWs possession; in other words, it was driven/hauled to a dealer, or sent to a departure port. So your car was finished, and then left to be delivered locally right after.


"Hello,

the manufacturing date it is the date when it was finished.

The delivery Date depends, sometimes it is the moment it left the factory, sometimes when it was deliverd to a customer. Usually the latter on "newer" cars around start of the 80s"
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